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The difference is supposed to be the content. Beatrix Ruf There are many strategies in art films that speak about the cinematic image, about experience, about the world. John Baldessari Do you see a difference? Beatrix Ruf Yes often, through different uses of the narrative, through images that are Beatrix Ruf Im Kunstfilm gibt es zahlreiche Strategien, die vom Bild im Kino sprechen, von der Erfahrung, von der Welt. John Baldessari Erkennst du einen Unterschied? Beatrix Ruf Ja, oft, in einer anderen Verwendung des Narrativen, in Bildern, die nicht funktionalisiert sind, um der Filmhandlung zu «dienen», in der Qualität der Bilder selbst.

No one is talking about metaphors. But they are talking about complex reactions to critical theory. John Baldessari I think that artists always have an anxiety, because they don’t know who they’re reaching: a stand-up comedian, people boo and walk out, the comedian knows right away. Somebody singing in a musical knows right away but we don’t. In fact we never know. ” John Baldessari Ich glaube, Künstler sind immer verunsichert, weil sie nicht wissen, wen sie erreichen: Ein Stehgreif-Komiker wird ausgebuht und die Leute verlassen den Saal, der weiss sofort, woran er ist.

I see it as a product, from the beginning. I don’t really think of political commitment, which means you make something as a reason to get the hell out of bed in the morning. There is no reason to get up just to show everybody that you are wie man Ideen so in einem Buch unterbringt, dass sie jemanden erreichen können. Ich sehe es nicht als weiterführendes Gespräch, das mir meinen Platz innerhalb der intellektuellen Hefe der zeitgenössischen Kunstszene sichert. Ich verstehe es als Produkt, von Anfang an.

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